Comments for http://heirhead.com Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:03:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 Comment on Pastor Jay Bakker at Gay Pride March. Is that legal? by Tom Conner http://heirhead.com/2008/09/28/pastor-jay-bakker-at-gay-pride-march-is-that-legal/#comment-330 Tom Conner Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:28:44 +0000 http://heirhead.com/?p=19#comment-330 God was clear in Leviticus 18:22, there was no room for misinterpretation. It does say "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it IS an abomination." It doesn't say "Thou should not" The lines are clear cut and easy to understand, as a Christian it is my responsibility to obey that law! When referred to 1 Timothy 1:10 ( you see where a preachers responsibility is charged to him by God) " For the whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; (again this is clearly defined as contrary) 1 Timothy 1:11 "According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust". Very strong verse! We must understand that the role of a preacher, pastor, priest, or any representatives of the word of God, are bound by the word of God, not at liberty to challenge it! It is a preachers job to spread the word of God not to dilute its meaning, I see no accommodations for sinning at, or in the church, but there's always room for more sinners, gays, drunkards, fornicators, addicts, etc, all need the word of God. Christianity doesn't need help, sinners do! So after calling himself a preacher, and going against the word of God, by saying " Homosexuality is not a sin " he places the credibility of Gods word in a questionable position. This sounds harmful. Participating in a march that condones sin would be as bad as using church funds to rebuild the local "crack house" Once you step out of Gods boundaries there are no limits to the extent of your sin,( if God can't keep you morally straight who will? ) What's next a Man to Sheep marriage at St. Paul's Cathedral? (lol) A bit off path, but if a pastor dismisses one law, it becomes a back door for tolerance, deformation of the scriptures, and an endless problem. Yes, reach out to sinners, no, don't tell them sinning is o.k. What happened to Soddom & Gomorrah ? Finally, who in the world would take any member of the crusading false prophets also known as the Bakkers seriously? This is my opinion, and I know I'm going out on a limb here, but prostitutes, pride marches, and money embezzlement? What part of that did God say belonged within the church, and how does that help Christianity? Remember what happened to Lot's wife? That was just for looking! I'm not at liberty to judge, nor is anyone else, (we're all sinners) but according to Jesus, Mr. Bakker's going to get a millstone necklace to swim with! That's what God says. God didn't dance around egg shells. God didn't worry about offending anyone, neither did Jesus for that matter. When God decides to destroy another city of sin I want to be a safe distance away, so no pride marches for me, I have enough to worry about. Tom. God was clear in Leviticus 18:22, there was no room for misinterpretation. It does say “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it IS an abomination.” It doesn’t say “Thou should not” The lines are clear cut and easy to understand, as a Christian it is my responsibility to obey that law!
When referred to 1 Timothy 1:10 ( you see where a preachers responsibility is charged to him by God) ” For the whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; (again this is clearly defined as contrary) 1 Timothy 1:11 “According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust”.
Very strong verse! We must understand that the role of a preacher, pastor, priest, or any representatives of the word of God, are bound by the word of God, not at liberty to challenge it!
It is a preachers job to spread the word of God not to dilute its meaning, I see no accommodations for sinning at, or in the church, but there’s always room for more sinners, gays, drunkards, fornicators, addicts, etc, all need the word of God.
Christianity doesn’t need help, sinners do!
So after calling himself a preacher, and going against the word of God, by saying ” Homosexuality is not a sin ” he places the credibility of Gods word in a questionable position. This sounds harmful. Participating in a march that condones sin would be as bad as using church funds to rebuild the local “crack house” Once you step out of Gods boundaries there are no limits to the extent of your sin,( if God can’t keep you morally straight who will? ) What’s next a
Man to Sheep marriage at St. Paul’s Cathedral? (lol) A bit off path, but if a pastor dismisses one law, it becomes a back door for tolerance, deformation of the scriptures, and an endless problem. Yes, reach out to sinners, no, don’t tell them sinning is o.k. What happened to Soddom & Gomorrah ?
Finally, who in the world would take any member of the crusading false prophets also known as the Bakkers seriously? This is my opinion, and I know I’m going out on a limb here, but prostitutes, pride marches, and money embezzlement? What part of that did God say belonged within the church, and how does that help Christianity? Remember what happened to Lot’s wife? That was just for looking! I’m not at liberty to judge, nor is anyone else, (we’re all sinners) but according to Jesus, Mr. Bakker’s going to get a millstone necklace to swim with!
That’s what God says. God didn’t dance around egg shells. God didn’t worry about offending anyone, neither did Jesus for that matter. When God decides to destroy another city of sin I want to be a safe distance away, so no pride marches for me, I have enough to worry about.
Tom.

]]> Comment on Pastor Jay Bakker at Gay Pride March. Is that legal? by th3o http://heirhead.com/2008/09/28/pastor-jay-bakker-at-gay-pride-march-is-that-legal/#comment-320 th3o Sat, 08 Nov 2008 00:24:17 +0000 http://heirhead.com/?p=19#comment-320 I certainly think he's helping Christianity more than the protesters on the sidelines. HOWEVER, (and leaving his view out of it) - I think it's harmful in that people might see him marching, and think - 'Oh, you can be gay and Christian'. Don't get me wrong. I'm not a "God hates Fags" follower - as a trainee actor (and artist) I have a few gay classmates and friends. I treat them with as much respect as guy or girl, who satisfies their fancies out of wedlock. What I'm basically saying is that we should love the sinner, but hate the sin. Thus, by marching in a gay-pride march it can be seen as saying that he loves the "sin". (there are already enough people out there who claim God made them gay - and it's how they should stay). He would do much better to make personal connections with them, and lead them to Christ in that way (if they're still gay when they choose Christ, fine. That's for God to sort out - but encouraging it doesn't help). The only problem with making personal connections is, how does he reach the larger gay community, who do feel, and (quite wrongly) are rejected by the Religious Reich. It's a very thin like to be tread (or in this case, marched). well, that's my humble opinion. Godspeed, -th3o I certainly think he’s helping Christianity more than the protesters on the sidelines.
HOWEVER, (and leaving his view out of it) - I think it’s harmful in that people might see him marching, and think - ‘Oh, you can be gay and Christian’.

Don’t get me wrong. I’m not a “God hates Fags” follower - as a trainee actor (and artist) I have a few gay classmates and friends. I treat them with as much respect as guy or girl, who satisfies their fancies out of wedlock.
What I’m basically saying is that we should love the sinner, but hate the sin.

Thus, by marching in a gay-pride march it can be seen as saying that he loves the “sin”. (there are already enough people out there who claim God made them gay - and it’s how they should stay).
He would do much better to make personal connections with them, and lead them to Christ in that way (if they’re still gay when they choose Christ, fine. That’s for God to sort out - but encouraging it doesn’t help).
The only problem with making personal connections is, how does he reach the larger gay community, who do feel, and (quite wrongly) are rejected by the Religious Reich.
It’s a very thin like to be tread (or in this case, marched).

well, that’s my humble opinion.
Godspeed,
-th3o

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